[trungduong] Go Vote!

[Victor Thang Do]

Sorry folks. I'm kind of busy now. I'll be back next week. Have a nice 
weekenk.

>From: <Nam_Nguyen at Dell.com>
>Reply-To: Just chat <All at trungduong.org>
>To: <All at trungduong.org>
>Subject: RE: [trungduong] Go Vote!
>Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 11:59:13 -0500
>
>Binh's hypothetical scenarios on Pro-Life issues are good.  I would like
>to bring up one on this topic:
>
>Assume China/Russia jumped into Iraq trying to influence the Middle
>East.  They helped the extremists to start a civil war and fight the US.
>Fourteen years from now, both sides were still fighting evenly with US
>losing 56k of troops.  Our sons and daughters were about to be drafted
>and sent to Iraq.  What would you do?
>
>For me, I would very likely become a stupid anti-war activist dedicating
>all my time to stop that.  I would try to get the US and China/Russia to
>agree to pull out of Iraq and let the Iraqis to resolve their internal
>matters.  How different would that scenario from the Vietnam case?
>
>http://vietnam.vassar.edu/doc16.html
>
>" The reunification of Viet-Nam shall be carried out step by step
>through peaceful means on the basis of discussions and agreements
>between North and South Viet-Nam, without coercion or annexation by
>either party, and without foreign interference. The time for
>reunification will be agreed upon by North and South Viet-Nam."
>" The United States anticipates that this Agreement will usher in an era
>of reconciliation with the Democratic Republic of Viet-Nam as with all
>the peoples of Indochina. In pursuance of its traditional policy, the
>United States will contribute to healing the wounds of war and to
>postwar reconstruction of the Democratic Republic of Viet-Nam and
>throughout Indochina."
>" North and South Viet-Nam shall respect the Demilitarized Zone on
>either side of the Provisional Military Demarcation Line."
>
>I do not know what would have happened if the US had not pulled out
>troops.  Would a lot more US troops and Vietnamese have died?  Would the
>Soviet hardliners have let Gorbachev talk to Reagan while their nation
>still being at war?  Would Communism have fallen apart?
>
>I know these are results (either directly or indirectly) from their
>pullout, for which I feel really blessed:
>
>I had a chance to meet wonderful people like you.
>I had a chance to be in the US, meet my wife, and have my family.
>
>Although VN is still not a free country, we had close relatives and
>family friends being killed in '75, my Dad spent time in the
>re-education camp, I spent over 2 years of my precious youth time in
>various prisons/labor camp getting beat/abused, I am not blaming anyone
>including the Americans.  They tried and fought very hard alongside with
>the South Vietnamese Army, althought we failed.  I believe VN is moving
>to the right direction now and can be a free and properous country in
>the future.
>
>Nam
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: All-bounces at trungduong.org [mailto:All-bounces at trungduong.org] On
>Behalf Of Anh Le Arsenault
>Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 9:32 AM
>To: Just chat
>Subject: Re: [trungduong] Go Vote!
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Victor Thang Do" <tddo at hotmail.com>
>To: <All at trungduong.org>
>Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 12:47 PM
>Subject: Re: [trungduong] Go Vote!
>
>
> >> "Communists in Korea and Germany accepted the division of the
>country.
> >> VN-communists didn't. They vowed they never will."
> >>
> >_ How do you know? Or just because of stupid anti-war activists like
>Kerry,
> > Fonda (later on sorry for here acts) prevent the freedom of South Viet
>Nam.
>
>Because North VN communists violated Geneva Agreement. They attacked the
>South in Tet 1968. They also built underground "du kick" in the South.
>Didn't you remember their propaganda? "Khang chien truong ky nhat dinh
>thang
>loi" "Da danh la danh den cung"
>North Korean  Communists didn't invade the South after the division.
>Neither
>did Eastern German.
>If only the anti-war activists can stop the war, then the Iraq war could
>have been stopped already. Didn't you know about all the war protests in
>this country and around the world?
>
>
> >> "If I could make an assumption, we might end up living
> >> in a place like Palestine/Israel with daily violence. 3 generations
>of
> >> Palestinians have been stuck in Palestine refugee camps since 1948 by
> >> Israeli. They have been fighting since then and nowhere near the
>end."
>
> > _ You can't compare orange with apple. Palestine and Israel are
>different
> > countries. They fought each other for different purposes. Just compare
>VN
> > with Korea, or a little close to East & West Germany.
>
>There are NO two countries exactly the same. So pick any 2 countries to
>compare is doing apple&orange comparison. One can only analyze on the
>common/difference between the countries. Nobody can guarantee that if
>one
>thing happens in country A, it will happen the same way in country B no
>matters how much in common those countries are. Again, if you disagree
>with
>my assumption so much, what makes your assumption about VN war
>convincible ?
>They're all just assumptions after all.
>
> > Can you do your bussiness with sometimes we have an explosion
>somewhere in
> > the US caused by terrorists?
> >
>
>Remember Iraq didn't send terrorists to place bombs in U.S or elsewhere.
>Bin
>Laden followers/sympathizers did. Now that he escaped U.S attack, he
>gained
>even higher respect among terrorists. He doesn't even have to physically
>lead or order the terrorist groups around the world. Those just attack
>on
>his behalf.
>
>---pa
>
>
> > Thang
>
>
>
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