[trungduong] Go Vote!
Victor Thang Do
tddo at hotmail.com
Thu Oct 28 13:05:13 CDT 2004
Hello,
"Then U.S abandoned Afghanistan, let Taliban come in power and,
of course, support Bin Laden and his followers. Look at who were U.S
presidents then? Ronald Reagan 2 terms, then George Bush Senior."
_ The time frame is incorrect and look who was the US president at that
time.
* In late 1992, Kabul was captured and an alliance of mujahideen set up a
new government with Burhanuddin Rabbani as interim president. Who was the
president of the US at that time? Bush senior lost the election to the
Clinton.
* Civil wars between war lords tore down the country of Apghanistan. Who was
the president of the US at that time? Clinton.
* In the late 1996 the Taliban movement rose up in Kandahar at took the
Kabul in 1998. Who was the president of the US at that time? Clinton.
* The Taliban harbored the Al qaeda and let them build terrorist camps with
training facilities, airports, money collections from 1996 to 2001. Who was
the president of the US at that time? Clinton.
Clinton had 2 terms to solve the terrorism issue, but he didn't. Instead, he
let them grown. Now he backed flip-flop Kerry to follow his trail to go back
to pre-9/11 times.
Thang
>From: Anh Le Arsenault <anhple at earthlink.net>
>Reply-To: Just chat <All at trungduong.org>
>To: Just chat <All at trungduong.org>
>Subject: Re: [trungduong] Go Vote!
>Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 10:11:50 -0400
>
>Hello, I'm back!
>I thought we either stopped or moved to TrungDuong Forum?
>Admit it ! We're glued to this now ;-)
>Well, I will copy this thread to the Forum some time. Good information to
>keep, don't you think?
>
>Yesterday, I had to leave work early to rush Jamie to Pediatrician because
>he was misserable with his second teething. Upper teeth are coming up. Then
>we watched RedSox game and eclipse at night. And we were overjoyed with the
>Boston team's victory.
>
>"He / Demo left a big mess in security for Bush administration. 9/11 was
>the
>effect of the cause from him not from Bush."
>
>Because Bin Laden and Afghanistan were mentioned previously, I thought a
>bit
>of background should be pointed out. Through the 1980s, Afghanistan was
>invaded and occupied by Soviet Union. U.S policy was that "NO" to Soviet
>control of Mid-East. So they funded the Afghan- then called "Freedom
>Fighters" - now called "terrorists". During that situation, Bin Laden
>joined
>those fighters and became their leader. Why fund them? to kick out Soviet
>troops. The same way with Chinese supporting North Vietnam communists to
>kick out Americans in the South. Then Soviet was really kicked out from
>Afgahnistan. Then U.S abandoned Afghanistan, let Taliban come in power and,
>of course, support Bin Laden and his followers. Look at who were U.S
>presidents then? Ronald Reagan 2 terms, then George Bush Senior. Then
>Clinton came. He tried to get Bin Laden but he failed. So did W.Bush in
>this
>term.
>Both parties have contributed good presidents and "less than good" ones.
>That's why I registered as "Independent" and will stay that way. Just to
>have as much objective look at the candidates as possible. For Democracy,
>it's required to have more than one party in power.
>
>Anyway, enjoy your freedom to vote.
>Gooday,
>--pa
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Nam Nguyen" <nam_nguyen67 at hotmail.com>
>To: <All at trungduong.org>
>Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 9:02 PM
>Subject: RE: [trungduong] Go Vote!
>
>
> > Hi Thang,
> >
> > " The policy and strategy of an administration is more important, not a
> > person."
> >
> > Then, why people made a big fuss over Clinton and his personal life?
>Why
> > wasted tons of tax-payers' money trying to impeach him? They said it
>was
> > perjury, but why did they put him under oath about his personal life in
>the
> > first place? It sure looked like a setup to me.
> >
> > You mentioned Clinton is a state-of-the-art liar. I do not recall he
>lied
> > about national security matters. Do you? He did not exaggerate reasons
>to
> > go to war in Bosnia. No CIA covert agent's name was leaked under his
>watch.
> >
> > I think personal character also plays a very important factor. People
>can
> > fake their character, but not under fire or extreme condition. What did
> > Bush do on the day this nation was attacked, besides reading "My Pet
>Goat"?
> > Cheney had to give an order to shoot down an airplane. Did anyone
>explain
> > why Bush flew around like a duck to Louisiana and then Omaha? I
>understand
> > why the commander-in-chief has to be protected but why didn't he just go
>to
> > an undisclosed location and direct the nation from there. I just cannot
> > imagine how he can handle a more urgent event. If you forget his face
>at
> > that time, try Farenheit 9/11. I was really scared watching our war
> > president.
> >
> > Nam
> >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: All-bounces at trungduong.org [mailto:All-bounces at trungduong.org] On
> > >Behalf Of Victor Thang Do
> > >Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 6:00 PM
> > >To: All at trungduong.org
> > >Subject: RE: [trungduong] Go Vote!
> > >
> > >Hi,
> > >
> > >Vu, the script is very interesting. That's why I said the look of
> > >American
> > >history about VN war sometimes dead wrong. Even Bush also has a wrong
> > >view.
> > >Or may be he did not tell the truth about American friends dumped their
> > >allies / South Vietnam (what a shame!). Somehow he got a supporting
> > >voice
> > >for VN-American, better than killing the hope as Kerry. The policy and
> > >strategy of an administration is more important, not a person.
> > >Internet Cafe? Interesting idea, Vu. It's not going to work for me
>since
> > >it
> > >looks like you travel by watching the video or dvd. I can wait another
> > >10
> > >yrs to get you a real cup of coffee, Vu. :)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Ngo, Vu (NIH/NCI)" <ngovu at mail.nih.gov>
> > > >Reply-To: Just chat <All at trungduong.org>
> > > >To: 'Just chat' <All at trungduong.org>
> > > >Subject: RE: [trungduong] Go Vote!
> > > >Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 18:13:58 -0400
> > > >
> > > >Binh,
> > > >The information wasn't intended for changing anyone's decision. It
> > >only
> > > >shows one can always find something bad about both candidates but the
> > >big
> > > >picture will not change. If they are both bad, I don't want to
>choose
> > >the
> > > >worse.
> > > >Thang,
> > > >Let me know when your favorite cafe goes online, then we can enjoy
>some
> > > >virtual caffeine without having to wait another 10 years. What
>happens
> > >to
> > > >the internet smell invention that you can actually smell your
>favorite
> > > >flavor on your screen. IPO did not take off? Those internet cafes
>can
> > >take
> > > >advantage of this invention.
> > > >
> > > > > ----------
> > > > > From: Binh Truong
> > > > > Reply To: Just chat
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 5:54 PM
> > > > > To: Just chat
> > > > > Subject: Re: [trungduong] Go Vote!
> > > > >
> > > > > <<File: ATT1098600.txt>>
> > > > > Thanks, Vu for that information, though it didn't make much
> > >difference
> > > >for
> > > > > my decision. Chances are Bush probably can't even find Vietnam on
> > >the
> > > > > map, much less understand the complexity of that conflict. But
> > >don't
> > > > > blame him for not knowing: he was grounded from flying in N'l Air
> > >Guard.
> > > > >
> > > > > Binh
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: Ngo, Vu (NIH/NCI)
> > > > > To: 'Just chat'
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 4:19 PM
> > > > > Subject: RE: [trungduong] Go Vote!
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi All,
> > > > > Before you all leave the topic and head to the poll, there is a
> > > > > message that
> > > > > I got from a friend intended for those who are pro-Bush. I have
> > > > > said that
> > > > > Fox news is the well known biased media toward conservative
> > > > > pro-republican
> > > > > idealism so I take to the face value that it never intends to
> > >work
> > > > > against
> > > > > Bush in the following interview:
> > > > >
> > > > > [B] What Pres. Bush Thinks of Vietnamese. What An INSULT!
> > > > >
> > > > > On the Sept. 27 edition of the O'Reilly Factor, a Fox
> > >News
> > > > > Channel show, the following conversation between Pres. Bush
> > > > > and O'Reilly occurred:
> > > > > O'REILLY: The South Vietnamese didn't fight for their
> > >freedom,
> > > > > which is why they don't have it today.
> > > > > BUSH: Yes.
> > > > > O'REILLY: Do you think the Iraqis are going to fight for
> > >their
> > > > > freedom?
> > > > > BUSH: Absolutely. Read the transcript:
> > > > > http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,133712,00.html .
> > > > >
> > > > > The Vietnamese American is the only AsAm group that
> > > > > still favors Pres. Bush to Kerry. Look, however, what Bush
> > >thinks
> > > > > of Vietnamese. Politicians often ABUSE their MOST LOYAL
> > >supporters
> > > > > who are POLITICALLY NAIVE. Here is one example of this kind of
> > > > > abuse! What an INSULT! Pass this email to your Vietnamese
> > > > > friends.
> > > > >
> > > > >
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