[trungduong] Go Vote!

Tue Oct 26 17:19:01 CDT 2004

The American history has different views about our true history. Sometimes 
it's wrong. For instant, when I took a history class in college, I strongly 
disagreed with the instructor who viewed president Ngo Dinh Diem as an 
dictator and corrupted that's why they carried the coup to kill him and his 
family. I don't know where you get those docs, but I know at that time HCM 
is not a big guy to let some people like Roos and Truman to talk to at that 
time. Beside that he's a liar and a dictator. He just wanted to keep his 
pos. He's affected by Chinese communists. His henchmen assasinated all the 
patriots at that time, e.g. Viet Nam Quoc Dan Dang. (I have proof not docs)
About Korea, I mean if our country is still divided as North & South Korea 
right now then it's gonna be ways better than right now. There'll be no 
innocent people died in the sea, sold their labors with the cheapest price, 
no innocent girls to get sold to the foreigners as a slave, etc.

>From: Anh Le Arsenault <anhple at earthlink.net>
>Reply-To: Just chat <All at trungduong.org>
>To: Just chat <All at trungduong.org>
>CC: TraDuong at aol.com, nhaantr at hotmail.com, 
>hoanganhl at hotmail.com,dunghn at cisco.com
>Subject: Re: [trungduong] Go Vote!
>Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:05:26 -0400
>
>The war I meant is the current Iraq war, of course, no real cause. And not
>only warriors go there.
>About the Vietnam war, there are endless facts and factors that history
>continues to work on.
>Had President Harry Truman not lent a hand to French after World War 2 
>ended
>to suppress Vietnamese as French colony, would Vietnam not have followed
>Lenin and Communist Party. Some Americans still view this as a presidential
>mistake then. Documentary says that Ho Chi Minh actually met with Franklin
>Roosevelt to ask for help to get independence from the French way before he
>launched the VietMinh. Roosevelt agreed to help but he died soon later.
>Truman came in to break the promise. And the long unfortunate struggle
>began. Communist commited crimes in Vietnam to there own people. That's for
>sure. But going back to history, all this unfortunate might have been
>prevented in the first place if a powerful president had not made a wrong
>choice.
>Korean war? I remember it ended with talks between 2 sides, which may or 
>may
>not hold true for countries like Vietnam whose people is famous for long,
>hard struggle.
>---pa
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Victor Thang Do" <tddo at hotmail.com>
>To: <All at trungduong.org>
>Cc: <TraDuong at aol.com>; <nhaantr at hotmail.com>; <hoanganhl at hotmail.com>;
><dunghn at cisco.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 3:15 PM
>Subject: Re: [trungduong] Go Vote!
>
>
> > "Claiming to protect every life while sending people to war for no real
> > cause?"
> > Are those people not adults? Those are warriors. Are they forced to be
> > enlisted like in VN? No. They opted for that job. They're helping
>suppressed
> > people there. When the US sent soldiers to help South VN to fight the
> > communism. Is that no real cause? If not, why are we ended up here? 
>We're
> > suppressed, no rights, no future. If you not agree then you live in a
>wrong
> > place. More than 50,000 US soldiers and hundred thousands of  VNese died
>in
> > VN for no real cause? Dictatorship presents in different images. Instead
>of
> > honoring those who fought for freedom guys like Kerry and Jane Fonda
> > opposing it. That's why we lost our country. Our father, relatives went 
>to
> > the concentrate camps. I was wondering if our country is like South 
>Korea
> > today. :(
> >
> > "There were a lot of abortions there, too, by the way"
> > I agree, but the government overthere explicitely supports abortion? At
> > least, no.
> >
> > Thang
> >
> > >From: Anh Le Arsenault <anhple at earthlink.net>
> > >Reply-To: Just chat <All at trungduong.org>
> > >To: Just chat <All at trungduong.org>
> > >CC: TraDuong at aol.com, nhaantr at hotmail.com,
> > >hoanganhl at hotmail.com,dunghn at cisco.com
> > >Subject: Re: [trungduong] Go Vote!
> > >Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:19:59 -0400
> > >
> > >Hmmm. Back to those days in VN, families that didn't have any financial
> > >support from relatives in external countries, like mine, did worry 
>about
> > >welfare, things like: how to put meal on the table tomorrow, how to
>survive
> > >when get sick, etc. There were a lot of abortions there, too, by the 
>way.
> > >
> > >Ethical matter?
> > >Claiming to protect every life while sending people to war for no real
> > >cause?
> > >
> > >---pa
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Victor Thang Do" <tddo at hotmail.com>
> > >To: <All at trungduong.org>
> > >Cc: <TraDuong at aol.com>; <nhaantr at hotmail.com>; <hoanganhl at hotmail.com>;
> > ><dunghn at cisco.com>
> > >Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 1:34 PM
> > >Subject: Re: [trungduong] Go Vote!
> > >
> > >
> > > > "Is this issue more important than welfare, social security for your
> > >parents
> > > > and yourselves ? "
> > > > Yes, It sure is, PA. By the days we lived in VN, did we care about
> > >welfare,
> > > > social security? Hell, no!! We don't know how to live tomorrow, but
>life
> > > > stills goes on. Babies and lives still survived in that environment.
>And
> > >we
> > > > still survived until the day we got here, right? If you don't see 
>it's
>a
> > > > serious ethical matter then I don't have anything to say.
> > > >
> > > > Thang
> > > >
> > > > >From: Anh Le Arsenault <anhple at earthlink.net>
> > > > >Reply-To: Just chat <All at trungduong.org>
> > > > >To: Just chat <All at trungduong.org>
> > > > >CC: TraDuong at aol.com, nhaantr at hotmail.com,
> > > > >hoanganhl at hotmail.com,dunghn at cisco.com
> > > > >Subject: Re: [trungduong] Go Vote!
> > > > >Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:19:45 -0400
> > > > >
> > > > >The Abortion will continue to be an issue with each precidency in 
>the
> > >past
> > > > >and the future. One president may turn it on. The next president 
>may
> > >turn
> > > > >it
> > > > >off. It will never get into a permanent state: ON or OFF.
> > > > >Is this issue more important than welfare, social security for your
> > >parents
> > > > >and yourselves ? Imagine some day soon, with the deep deficit,
>welfare
> > >and
> > > > >social security will be cut for elderly/disable people. I think 
>it's
> > > > >already
> > > > >cut back today compared to 4 years ago.
> > > > >
> > > > >---anh
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > >From: "Victor Thang Do" <tddo at hotmail.com>
> > > > >To: <All at trungduong.org>; <hoanganhl at hotmail.com>;
><dunghn at cisco.com>;
> > > > ><TraDuong at aol.com>; <nhaantr at hotmail.com>
> > > > >Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 12:49 PM
> > > > >Subject: Re: [trungduong] Go Vote!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A war hero doesn't mean a good president/leader. There's a
>critical
> > > > >point
> > > > > > that I don't want to vote for Kerry is that he supports/oks with
>the
> > > > > > abortion. As a parent, you'll see life of a child is not your
> > >decision
> > > > >and
> > > > > > it's so precious and appreciative. There's no "pro-choice" here.
> > >Either
> > > > > > you're a killer or not. It's that simple. No matter what your
> > >religion
> > > > >is
> > > > > > pro-kill a human life is UNACCEPTABLE.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >From: Anh Le Arsenault <anhple at earthlink.net>
> > > > > > >Reply-To: Just chat <All at trungduong.org>
> > > > > > >To: Just chat <All at trungduong.org>, hoanganhl at hotmail.com,
> > > > > > >dunghn at cisco.com,TraDuong at aol.com, nhaantr at hotmail.com
> > > > > > >Subject: Re: [trungduong] Go Vote!
> > > > > > >Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:11:35 -0400
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >I agree McCain is a hero, in war and after. Yet he lost
>Republican
> > > > > > >Nomination of Presidential Election 2000 to Bush. Why? Bush
>played
> > > > >dirty
> > > > > > >tricks to smear McCain then, especially he smeared McCain on 
>his
> > >War
> > > > > > >record.
> > > > > > >Had McCain won then, should this country have had better 4 
>years.
> > > > > > >Anyway, you guys really got to think. That's good.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >---pa
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > >From: "Victor Thang Do" <tddo at hotmail.com>
> > > > > > >To: <All at trungduong.org>; <hoanganhl at hotmail.com>;
> > ><dunghn at cisco.com>;
> > > > > > ><TraDuong at aol.com>; <nhaantr at hotmail.com>
> > > > > > >Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 12:52 PM
> > > > > > >Subject: Re: [trungduong] Go Vote!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > We just wait and see what's gonna happen.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > " You let Bush caught you on this. Sorry."
> > > > > > > > - Have you watched 4 debates (3 from Bush-Kerry, 1 from
> > > > >Cheney-Edwards)?
> > > > > > >Did
> > > > > > > > you hear what Kerry commented about terrorism? Words were 
>out
> > >from
> > > > >his
> > > > > > >mouth
> > > > > > > > not from Bush's.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > " Only Kerry cannot veto and kill a proposition in Senate"
> > > > > > > > - You can research and figure out that.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "Kerry only raises tax for upper class who earn $200K/year 
>or
> > >more.
> > > > >You
> > > > > > > > >belong to upper class ?"
> > > > > > > > - Do you believe a flip-flop guy's tongue? I don't think so.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I have some interesting pics about Kerry and Do Muoi in 
>1993.
>I
> > > > >think
> > > > > > >Sen.
> > > > > > > > John McCain never do that instead he's the one to support 
>the
> > > > > > >proposition
> > > > > > > > and the one of the ones who found the HO program for former
> > > > >Vietnamese
> > > > > > > > officers and their families can refuge in the US. He's the
>real
> > >hero
> > > > >to
> > > > > > >me.
> > > > > > > > He sat right in the heart of SaiGon and criticized about the
> > >human
> > > > > > >rights
> > > > > > > > for VN not kiss ass. If you watched that show on the day 
>he's
> > >back
> > > > >to
> > > > >VN
> > > > > > >you
> > > > > > > > will see it.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thang
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
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