[trungduong] Go Vote!

Tue Oct 26 15:05:26 CDT 2004

The war I meant is the current Iraq war, of course, no real cause. And not
only warriors go there.
About the Vietnam war, there are endless facts and factors that history
continues to work on.
Had President Harry Truman not lent a hand to French after World War 2 ended
to suppress Vietnamese as French colony, would Vietnam not have followed
Lenin and Communist Party. Some Americans still view this as a presidential
mistake then. Documentary says that Ho Chi Minh actually met with Franklin
Roosevelt to ask for help to get independence from the French way before he
launched the VietMinh. Roosevelt agreed to help but he died soon later.
Truman came in to break the promise. And the long unfortunate struggle
began. Communist commited crimes in Vietnam to there own people. That's for
sure. But going back to history, all this unfortunate might have been
prevented in the first place if a powerful president had not made a wrong
choice.
Korean war? I remember it ended with talks between 2 sides, which may or may
not hold true for countries like Vietnam whose people is famous for long,
hard struggle.
---pa

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Victor Thang Do" <tddo at hotmail.com>
To: <All at trungduong.org>
Cc: <TraDuong at aol.com>; <nhaantr at hotmail.com>; <hoanganhl at hotmail.com>;
<dunghn at cisco.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 3:15 PM
Subject: Re: [trungduong] Go Vote!


> "Claiming to protect every life while sending people to war for no real
> cause?"
> Are those people not adults? Those are warriors. Are they forced to be
> enlisted like in VN? No. They opted for that job. They're helping
suppressed
> people there. When the US sent soldiers to help South VN to fight the
> communism. Is that no real cause? If not, why are we ended up here? We're
> suppressed, no rights, no future. If you not agree then you live in a
wrong
> place. More than 50,000 US soldiers and hundred thousands of  VNese died
in
> VN for no real cause? Dictatorship presents in different images. Instead
of
> honoring those who fought for freedom guys like Kerry and Jane Fonda
> opposing it. That's why we lost our country. Our father, relatives went to
> the concentrate camps. I was wondering if our country is like South Korea
> today. :(
>
> "There were a lot of abortions there, too, by the way"
> I agree, but the government overthere explicitely supports abortion? At
> least, no.
>
> Thang
>
> >From: Anh Le Arsenault <anhple at earthlink.net>
> >Reply-To: Just chat <All at trungduong.org>
> >To: Just chat <All at trungduong.org>
> >CC: TraDuong at aol.com, nhaantr at hotmail.com,
> >hoanganhl at hotmail.com,dunghn at cisco.com
> >Subject: Re: [trungduong] Go Vote!
> >Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:19:59 -0400
> >
> >Hmmm. Back to those days in VN, families that didn't have any financial
> >support from relatives in external countries, like mine, did worry about
> >welfare, things like: how to put meal on the table tomorrow, how to
survive
> >when get sick, etc. There were a lot of abortions there, too, by the way.
> >
> >Ethical matter?
> >Claiming to protect every life while sending people to war for no real
> >cause?
> >
> >---pa
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Victor Thang Do" <tddo at hotmail.com>
> >To: <All at trungduong.org>
> >Cc: <TraDuong at aol.com>; <nhaantr at hotmail.com>; <hoanganhl at hotmail.com>;
> ><dunghn at cisco.com>
> >Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 1:34 PM
> >Subject: Re: [trungduong] Go Vote!
> >
> >
> > > "Is this issue more important than welfare, social security for your
> >parents
> > > and yourselves ? "
> > > Yes, It sure is, PA. By the days we lived in VN, did we care about
> >welfare,
> > > social security? Hell, no!! We don't know how to live tomorrow, but
life
> > > stills goes on. Babies and lives still survived in that environment.
And
> >we
> > > still survived until the day we got here, right? If you don't see it's
a
> > > serious ethical matter then I don't have anything to say.
> > >
> > > Thang
> > >
> > > >From: Anh Le Arsenault <anhple at earthlink.net>
> > > >Reply-To: Just chat <All at trungduong.org>
> > > >To: Just chat <All at trungduong.org>
> > > >CC: TraDuong at aol.com, nhaantr at hotmail.com,
> > > >hoanganhl at hotmail.com,dunghn at cisco.com
> > > >Subject: Re: [trungduong] Go Vote!
> > > >Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:19:45 -0400
> > > >
> > > >The Abortion will continue to be an issue with each precidency in the
> >past
> > > >and the future. One president may turn it on. The next president may
> >turn
> > > >it
> > > >off. It will never get into a permanent state: ON or OFF.
> > > >Is this issue more important than welfare, social security for your
> >parents
> > > >and yourselves ? Imagine some day soon, with the deep deficit,
welfare
> >and
> > > >social security will be cut for elderly/disable people. I think it's
> > > >already
> > > >cut back today compared to 4 years ago.
> > > >
> > > >---anh
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: "Victor Thang Do" <tddo at hotmail.com>
> > > >To: <All at trungduong.org>; <hoanganhl at hotmail.com>;
<dunghn at cisco.com>;
> > > ><TraDuong at aol.com>; <nhaantr at hotmail.com>
> > > >Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 12:49 PM
> > > >Subject: Re: [trungduong] Go Vote!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > A war hero doesn't mean a good president/leader. There's a
critical
> > > >point
> > > > > that I don't want to vote for Kerry is that he supports/oks with
the
> > > > > abortion. As a parent, you'll see life of a child is not your
> >decision
> > > >and
> > > > > it's so precious and appreciative. There's no "pro-choice" here.
> >Either
> > > > > you're a killer or not. It's that simple. No matter what your
> >religion
> > > >is
> > > > > pro-kill a human life is UNACCEPTABLE.
> > > > >
> > > > > >From: Anh Le Arsenault <anhple at earthlink.net>
> > > > > >Reply-To: Just chat <All at trungduong.org>
> > > > > >To: Just chat <All at trungduong.org>, hoanganhl at hotmail.com,
> > > > > >dunghn at cisco.com,TraDuong at aol.com, nhaantr at hotmail.com
> > > > > >Subject: Re: [trungduong] Go Vote!
> > > > > >Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:11:35 -0400
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I agree McCain is a hero, in war and after. Yet he lost
Republican
> > > > > >Nomination of Presidential Election 2000 to Bush. Why? Bush
played
> > > >dirty
> > > > > >tricks to smear McCain then, especially he smeared McCain on his
> >War
> > > > > >record.
> > > > > >Had McCain won then, should this country have had better 4 years.
> > > > > >Anyway, you guys really got to think. That's good.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >---pa
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > > >From: "Victor Thang Do" <tddo at hotmail.com>
> > > > > >To: <All at trungduong.org>; <hoanganhl at hotmail.com>;
> ><dunghn at cisco.com>;
> > > > > ><TraDuong at aol.com>; <nhaantr at hotmail.com>
> > > > > >Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 12:52 PM
> > > > > >Subject: Re: [trungduong] Go Vote!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > We just wait and see what's gonna happen.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > " You let Bush caught you on this. Sorry."
> > > > > > > - Have you watched 4 debates (3 from Bush-Kerry, 1 from
> > > >Cheney-Edwards)?
> > > > > >Did
> > > > > > > you hear what Kerry commented about terrorism? Words were out
> >from
> > > >his
> > > > > >mouth
> > > > > > > not from Bush's.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > " Only Kerry cannot veto and kill a proposition in Senate"
> > > > > > > - You can research and figure out that.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Kerry only raises tax for upper class who earn $200K/year or
> >more.
> > > >You
> > > > > > > >belong to upper class ?"
> > > > > > > - Do you believe a flip-flop guy's tongue? I don't think so.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have some interesting pics about Kerry and Do Muoi in 1993.
I
> > > >think
> > > > > >Sen.
> > > > > > > John McCain never do that instead he's the one to support the
> > > > > >proposition
> > > > > > > and the one of the ones who found the HO program for former
> > > >Vietnamese
> > > > > > > officers and their families can refuge in the US. He's the
real
> >hero
> > > >to
> > > > > >me.
> > > > > > > He sat right in the heart of SaiGon and criticized about the
> >human
> > > > > >rights
> > > > > > > for VN not kiss ass. If you watched that show on the day he's
> >back
> > > >to
> > > >VN
> > > > > >you
> > > > > > > will see it.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thang
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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