[trungduong] Go Vote!

Victor Thang Do tddo at hotmail.com
Tue Nov 2 11:39:38 CST 2004


Binh,
I think I'm wrong to understand your words. However, I insist you're wrong 
on my words as well. You have to understand my words stated is in the 
context of Abortion Issue not as broad as you think, and I keep my words on 
that.

Folks,
Again, I respect all opinions of everyone in this TrungDuong.org. I don't 
want to offend anyone here. Just a pure debate. I thank America giving me 
freedom, but I love Viet Nam, the land I was born and my compatriots, not 
the regime. I'm proud of being a VietNamese and beg you to help building 
your VNese community in your area better and stronger one for now and the 
future, united not divided. I think my city will have a new mayor who is a 
Vietnamese, young, and talent after the vote today. Go vote today and 
remember the local gov and propositions/measures in your area are really 
important. They're affect directly to your living area. Thanks everyone.
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>From: "Binh Truong" <btruong2 at austin.rr.com>
>Reply-To: Just chat <All at trungduong.org>
>To: "Just chat" <All at trungduong.org>
>Subject: Re: [trungduong] Go Vote!
>Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 23:35:04 -0600
>
>Thang,
>
>Remember, I never claimed that I have answers to all these difficult 
>questions and I am still searching;  therefore, I cannot use these issues 
>to draw the line in the sand as to which party affliation I belong to for 
>each has its own self-contradiction which was what I was trying to point 
>out.  It's not that simple.  Anyhow, I was not the one who came down so 
>strong on this: "There's no "pro-choice" here.
> >Either
> >   >   you're a killer or not. It's that simple. No matter what your
> >religion
> >   >is
> >   >   pro-kill a human life is UNACCEPTABLE."
>
>To answer your question, I am on the pro-life side and I am trying to keep 
>it consistent  to the best of my knowledge.  I did not try to twist 
>anybody's ideals.  Any twisting one sees is already there.
>
>Folks, It's now down to the wire.  I am glad this election stimulated and 
>inspired lively discussion.  I've learned quite a bit about Vietnam War and 
>"history" in the process thanks to all your indepth knowledge.  Some might 
>have found the discussion a little over-heated and I apologize for my part 
>in the SPAM.  I thought it was healthy that we all could talk freely and 
>share our thoughts and ideas, despite their differences and not having to 
>worry about Big Brother's censorship.  I hope we continue conversations 
>like this even long after this election.  I am particularly interested in 
>the topic of Vietnamese ex-patriots living abroad.   I agree that we should 
>use the forum format to spare those who are not interested.
>
>See you at the polls.
>
>Binh
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Victor Thang Do
>   To: All at trungduong.org
>   Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 12:02 PM
>   Subject: Re: [trungduong] Go Vote!
>
>
>   Binh,
>
>   Let me tell you this: I'm not a Pro-Life, I am supporting the LIFE OF A
>   FETUS OR A BABY. If I always fighting for the life of a baby no matter 
>what
>   scenarios happened as your examples then I'm a priest or a monk already. 
>But
>   those are minority cases. You can't twist my ideal on that.
>
>   "I cannot be PRO-LIFE AND PRO-DEATH at the same time."
>   Please let me ask you a question: which "PRO" are you since you can't 
>stand
>   between them in this world?
>
>
>   >From: "Binh Truong" <btruong2 at austin.rr.com>
>   >Reply-To: Just chat <All at trungduong.org>
>   >To: "Just chat" <All at trungduong.org>
>   >Subject: Re: [trungduong] Go Vote!
>   >Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 17:25:16 -0500
>   >
>   >Thang,
>   >
>   >I envy you in your ability to see life and death so clearly in black 
>and
>   >white;  I, on the other hand, still see a lot of gray as to when life
>   >REALLY begins; death is a little easier to define but still a lot of
>   >ethical issues need to be sorted out; one thing I am sure of is that  I
>   >cannot be PRO-LIFE AND PRO-DEATH at the same time.
>   >
>   >Take a few hypothetical scenarios, for example:
>   >
>   >What if someone you know became pregnant as a victim of rape.  What 
>would
>   >you recommend?
>   >
>   >A murderer became repentant.  Is there room for redemption ?
>   >
>   >Are we 100% confident on lab results before sending someone to the 
>chair?
>   >
>   >A woman severely injured and comatose in indefinite vegetative state.  
>Pull
>   >the feeding tube or wait for recovery?
>   >
>   >These are very difficult questions that I don't think one party's 
>platform
>   >beliefs can answer for the rest of us.
>   >
>   >Binh
>   >   ----- Original Message -----
>   >   From: Victor Thang Do
>   >   To: All at trungduong.org
>   >   Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 2:52 PM
>   >   Subject: Re: [trungduong] Go Vote!
>   >
>   >
>   >   Binh,
>   >   Thanks for your comment. For capital punishment, some cases like 
>serial
>   >   killers, terrorists, intended murders, etc. deserved to get the 
>penalty.
>   >The
>   >   fetus/baby is innocent, can not be killed in vain.
>   >
>   >   Thang
>   >
>   >   >From: "Binh Truong" <btruong2 at austin.rr.com>
>   >   >Reply-To: Just chat <All at trungduong.org>
>   >   >To: "Just chat" <All at trungduong.org>,
>   >   ><hoanganhl at hotmail.com>,<dunghn at cisco.com>, <TraDuong at aol.com>,
>   >   ><nhaantr at hotmail.com>
>   >   >Subject: Re: [trungduong] Go Vote!
>   >   >Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:43:33 -0500
>   >   >
>   >   >Thang,
>   >   >
>   >   >Being in the medical field, I agree with you to SOME extent on the
>   >abortion
>   >   >issue.  I am curious as to where you stand on the death penalty for
>   >capital
>   >   >punishment?
>   >   >
>   >   >Binh
>   >   >   ----- Original Message -----
>   >   >   From: Victor Thang Do
>   >   >   To: All at trungduong.org ; hoanganhl at hotmail.com ; 
>dunghn at cisco.com ;
>   >   >TraDuong at aol.com ; nhaantr at hotmail.com
>   >   >   Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 11:49 AM
>   >   >   Subject: Re: [trungduong] Go Vote!
>   >   >
>   >   >
>   >   >
>   >   >   A war hero doesn't mean a good president/leader. There's a 
>critical
>   >   >point
>   >   >   that I don't want to vote for Kerry is that he supports/oks with 
>the
>   >   >   abortion. As a parent, you'll see life of a child is not your
>   >decision
>   >   >and
>   >   >   it's so precious and appreciative. There's no "pro-choice" here.
>   >Either
>   >   >   you're a killer or not. It's that simple. No matter what your
>   >religion
>   >   >is
>   >   >   pro-kill a human life is UNACCEPTABLE.
>   >   >
>   >   >   >From: Anh Le Arsenault <anhple at earthlink.net>
>   >   >   >Reply-To: Just chat <All at trungduong.org>
>   >   >   >To: Just chat <All at trungduong.org>, hoanganhl at hotmail.com,
>   >   >   >dunghn at cisco.com,TraDuong at aol.com, nhaantr at hotmail.com
>   >   >   >Subject: Re: [trungduong] Go Vote!
>   >   >   >Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:11:35 -0400
>   >   >   >
>   >   >   >I agree McCain is a hero, in war and after. Yet he lost 
>Republican
>   >   >   >Nomination of Presidential Election 2000 to Bush. Why? Bush 
>played
>   >   >dirty
>   >   >   >tricks to smear McCain then, especially he smeared McCain on 
>his
>   >War
>   >   >   >record.
>   >   >   >Had McCain won then, should this country have had better 4 
>years.
>   >   >   >Anyway, you guys really got to think. That's good.
>   >   >   >
>   >   >   >---pa
>   >   >   >
>   >   >   >
>   >   >   >----- Original Message -----
>   >   >   >From: "Victor Thang Do" <tddo at hotmail.com>
>   >   >   >To: <All at trungduong.org>; <hoanganhl at hotmail.com>;
>   ><dunghn at cisco.com>;
>   >   >   ><TraDuong at aol.com>; <nhaantr at hotmail.com>
>   >   >   >Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 12:52 PM
>   >   >   >Subject: Re: [trungduong] Go Vote!
>   >   >   >
>   >   >   >
>   >   >   > > We just wait and see what's gonna happen.
>   >   >   > >
>   >   >   > > " You let Bush caught you on this. Sorry."
>   >   >   > > - Have you watched 4 debates (3 from Bush-Kerry, 1 from
>   >   >Cheney-Edwards)?
>   >   >   >Did
>   >   >   > > you hear what Kerry commented about terrorism? Words were 
>out
>   >from
>   >   >his
>   >   >   >mouth
>   >   >   > > not from Bush's.
>   >   >   > >
>   >   >   > > " Only Kerry cannot veto and kill a proposition in Senate"
>   >   >   > > - You can research and figure out that.
>   >   >   > >
>   >   >   > > "Kerry only raises tax for upper class who earn $200K/year 
>or
>   >more.
>   >   >You
>   >   >   > > >belong to upper class ?"
>   >   >   > > - Do you believe a flip-flop guy's tongue? I don't think so.
>   >   >   > >
>   >   >   > > I have some interesting pics about Kerry and Do Muoi in 
>1993. I
>   >   >think
>   >   >   >Sen.
>   >   >   > > John McCain never do that instead he's the one to support 
>the
>   >   >   >proposition
>   >   >   > > and the one of the ones who found the HO program for former
>   >   >Vietnamese
>   >   >   > > officers and their families can refuge in the US. He's the 
>real
>   >hero
>   >   >to
>   >   >   >me.
>   >   >   > > He sat right in the heart of SaiGon and criticized about the
>   >human
>   >   >   >rights
>   >   >   > > for VN not kiss ass. If you watched that show on the day 
>he's
>   >back
>   >   >to VN
>   >   >   >you
>   >   >   > > will see it.
>   >   >   > >
>   >   >   > > Thang
>   >   >   > >
>   >   >   > >
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