[trungduong] Go Vote!
Victor Thang Do
tddo at hotmail.com
Tue Nov 2 11:39:38 CST 2004
Binh,
I think I'm wrong to understand your words. However, I insist you're wrong
on my words as well. You have to understand my words stated is in the
context of Abortion Issue not as broad as you think, and I keep my words on
that.
Folks,
Again, I respect all opinions of everyone in this TrungDuong.org. I don't
want to offend anyone here. Just a pure debate. I thank America giving me
freedom, but I love Viet Nam, the land I was born and my compatriots, not
the regime. I'm proud of being a VietNamese and beg you to help building
your VNese community in your area better and stronger one for now and the
future, united not divided. I think my city will have a new mayor who is a
Vietnamese, young, and talent after the vote today. Go vote today and
remember the local gov and propositions/measures in your area are really
important. They're affect directly to your living area. Thanks everyone.
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>From: "Binh Truong" <btruong2 at austin.rr.com>
>Reply-To: Just chat <All at trungduong.org>
>To: "Just chat" <All at trungduong.org>
>Subject: Re: [trungduong] Go Vote!
>Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 23:35:04 -0600
>
>Thang,
>
>Remember, I never claimed that I have answers to all these difficult
>questions and I am still searching; therefore, I cannot use these issues
>to draw the line in the sand as to which party affliation I belong to for
>each has its own self-contradiction which was what I was trying to point
>out. It's not that simple. Anyhow, I was not the one who came down so
>strong on this: "There's no "pro-choice" here.
> >Either
> > > you're a killer or not. It's that simple. No matter what your
> >religion
> > >is
> > > pro-kill a human life is UNACCEPTABLE."
>
>To answer your question, I am on the pro-life side and I am trying to keep
>it consistent to the best of my knowledge. I did not try to twist
>anybody's ideals. Any twisting one sees is already there.
>
>Folks, It's now down to the wire. I am glad this election stimulated and
>inspired lively discussion. I've learned quite a bit about Vietnam War and
>"history" in the process thanks to all your indepth knowledge. Some might
>have found the discussion a little over-heated and I apologize for my part
>in the SPAM. I thought it was healthy that we all could talk freely and
>share our thoughts and ideas, despite their differences and not having to
>worry about Big Brother's censorship. I hope we continue conversations
>like this even long after this election. I am particularly interested in
>the topic of Vietnamese ex-patriots living abroad. I agree that we should
>use the forum format to spare those who are not interested.
>
>See you at the polls.
>
>Binh
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Victor Thang Do
> To: All at trungduong.org
> Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 12:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [trungduong] Go Vote!
>
>
> Binh,
>
> Let me tell you this: I'm not a Pro-Life, I am supporting the LIFE OF A
> FETUS OR A BABY. If I always fighting for the life of a baby no matter
>what
> scenarios happened as your examples then I'm a priest or a monk already.
>But
> those are minority cases. You can't twist my ideal on that.
>
> "I cannot be PRO-LIFE AND PRO-DEATH at the same time."
> Please let me ask you a question: which "PRO" are you since you can't
>stand
> between them in this world?
>
>
> >From: "Binh Truong" <btruong2 at austin.rr.com>
> >Reply-To: Just chat <All at trungduong.org>
> >To: "Just chat" <All at trungduong.org>
> >Subject: Re: [trungduong] Go Vote!
> >Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 17:25:16 -0500
> >
> >Thang,
> >
> >I envy you in your ability to see life and death so clearly in black
>and
> >white; I, on the other hand, still see a lot of gray as to when life
> >REALLY begins; death is a little easier to define but still a lot of
> >ethical issues need to be sorted out; one thing I am sure of is that I
> >cannot be PRO-LIFE AND PRO-DEATH at the same time.
> >
> >Take a few hypothetical scenarios, for example:
> >
> >What if someone you know became pregnant as a victim of rape. What
>would
> >you recommend?
> >
> >A murderer became repentant. Is there room for redemption ?
> >
> >Are we 100% confident on lab results before sending someone to the
>chair?
> >
> >A woman severely injured and comatose in indefinite vegetative state.
>Pull
> >the feeding tube or wait for recovery?
> >
> >These are very difficult questions that I don't think one party's
>platform
> >beliefs can answer for the rest of us.
> >
> >Binh
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Victor Thang Do
> > To: All at trungduong.org
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 2:52 PM
> > Subject: Re: [trungduong] Go Vote!
> >
> >
> > Binh,
> > Thanks for your comment. For capital punishment, some cases like
>serial
> > killers, terrorists, intended murders, etc. deserved to get the
>penalty.
> >The
> > fetus/baby is innocent, can not be killed in vain.
> >
> > Thang
> >
> > >From: "Binh Truong" <btruong2 at austin.rr.com>
> > >Reply-To: Just chat <All at trungduong.org>
> > >To: "Just chat" <All at trungduong.org>,
> > ><hoanganhl at hotmail.com>,<dunghn at cisco.com>, <TraDuong at aol.com>,
> > ><nhaantr at hotmail.com>
> > >Subject: Re: [trungduong] Go Vote!
> > >Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:43:33 -0500
> > >
> > >Thang,
> > >
> > >Being in the medical field, I agree with you to SOME extent on the
> >abortion
> > >issue. I am curious as to where you stand on the death penalty for
> >capital
> > >punishment?
> > >
> > >Binh
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Victor Thang Do
> > > To: All at trungduong.org ; hoanganhl at hotmail.com ;
>dunghn at cisco.com ;
> > >TraDuong at aol.com ; nhaantr at hotmail.com
> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 11:49 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [trungduong] Go Vote!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > A war hero doesn't mean a good president/leader. There's a
>critical
> > >point
> > > that I don't want to vote for Kerry is that he supports/oks with
>the
> > > abortion. As a parent, you'll see life of a child is not your
> >decision
> > >and
> > > it's so precious and appreciative. There's no "pro-choice" here.
> >Either
> > > you're a killer or not. It's that simple. No matter what your
> >religion
> > >is
> > > pro-kill a human life is UNACCEPTABLE.
> > >
> > > >From: Anh Le Arsenault <anhple at earthlink.net>
> > > >Reply-To: Just chat <All at trungduong.org>
> > > >To: Just chat <All at trungduong.org>, hoanganhl at hotmail.com,
> > > >dunghn at cisco.com,TraDuong at aol.com, nhaantr at hotmail.com
> > > >Subject: Re: [trungduong] Go Vote!
> > > >Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:11:35 -0400
> > > >
> > > >I agree McCain is a hero, in war and after. Yet he lost
>Republican
> > > >Nomination of Presidential Election 2000 to Bush. Why? Bush
>played
> > >dirty
> > > >tricks to smear McCain then, especially he smeared McCain on
>his
> >War
> > > >record.
> > > >Had McCain won then, should this country have had better 4
>years.
> > > >Anyway, you guys really got to think. That's good.
> > > >
> > > >---pa
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: "Victor Thang Do" <tddo at hotmail.com>
> > > >To: <All at trungduong.org>; <hoanganhl at hotmail.com>;
> ><dunghn at cisco.com>;
> > > ><TraDuong at aol.com>; <nhaantr at hotmail.com>
> > > >Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 12:52 PM
> > > >Subject: Re: [trungduong] Go Vote!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > We just wait and see what's gonna happen.
> > > > >
> > > > > " You let Bush caught you on this. Sorry."
> > > > > - Have you watched 4 debates (3 from Bush-Kerry, 1 from
> > >Cheney-Edwards)?
> > > >Did
> > > > > you hear what Kerry commented about terrorism? Words were
>out
> >from
> > >his
> > > >mouth
> > > > > not from Bush's.
> > > > >
> > > > > " Only Kerry cannot veto and kill a proposition in Senate"
> > > > > - You can research and figure out that.
> > > > >
> > > > > "Kerry only raises tax for upper class who earn $200K/year
>or
> >more.
> > >You
> > > > > >belong to upper class ?"
> > > > > - Do you believe a flip-flop guy's tongue? I don't think so.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have some interesting pics about Kerry and Do Muoi in
>1993. I
> > >think
> > > >Sen.
> > > > > John McCain never do that instead he's the one to support
>the
> > > >proposition
> > > > > and the one of the ones who found the HO program for former
> > >Vietnamese
> > > > > officers and their families can refuge in the US. He's the
>real
> >hero
> > >to
> > > >me.
> > > > > He sat right in the heart of SaiGon and criticized about the
> >human
> > > >rights
> > > > > for VN not kiss ass. If you watched that show on the day
>he's
> >back
> > >to VN
> > > >you
> > > > > will see it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thang
> > > > >
> > > > >
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