[trungduong] Go Vote!
Binh Truong
btruong2 at austin.rr.com
Mon Nov 1 23:35:04 CST 2004
Thang,
Remember, I never claimed that I have answers to all these difficult questions and I am still searching; therefore, I cannot use these issues to draw the line in the sand as to which party affliation I belong to for each has its own self-contradiction which was what I was trying to point out. It's not that simple. Anyhow, I was not the one who came down so strong on this: "There's no "pro-choice" here.
>Either
> > you're a killer or not. It's that simple. No matter what your
>religion
> >is
> > pro-kill a human life is UNACCEPTABLE."
To answer your question, I am on the pro-life side and I am trying to keep it consistent to the best of my knowledge. I did not try to twist anybody's ideals. Any twisting one sees is already there.
Folks, It's now down to the wire. I am glad this election stimulated and inspired lively discussion. I've learned quite a bit about Vietnam War and "history" in the process thanks to all your indepth knowledge. Some might have found the discussion a little over-heated and I apologize for my part in the SPAM. I thought it was healthy that we all could talk freely and share our thoughts and ideas, despite their differences and not having to worry about Big Brother's censorship. I hope we continue conversations like this even long after this election. I am particularly interested in the topic of Vietnamese ex-patriots living abroad. I agree that we should use the forum format to spare those who are not interested.
See you at the polls.
Binh
----- Original Message -----
From: Victor Thang Do
To: All at trungduong.org
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: [trungduong] Go Vote!
Binh,
Let me tell you this: I'm not a Pro-Life, I am supporting the LIFE OF A
FETUS OR A BABY. If I always fighting for the life of a baby no matter what
scenarios happened as your examples then I'm a priest or a monk already. But
those are minority cases. You can't twist my ideal on that.
"I cannot be PRO-LIFE AND PRO-DEATH at the same time."
Please let me ask you a question: which "PRO" are you since you can't stand
between them in this world?
>From: "Binh Truong" <btruong2 at austin.rr.com>
>Reply-To: Just chat <All at trungduong.org>
>To: "Just chat" <All at trungduong.org>
>Subject: Re: [trungduong] Go Vote!
>Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 17:25:16 -0500
>
>Thang,
>
>I envy you in your ability to see life and death so clearly in black and
>white; I, on the other hand, still see a lot of gray as to when life
>REALLY begins; death is a little easier to define but still a lot of
>ethical issues need to be sorted out; one thing I am sure of is that I
>cannot be PRO-LIFE AND PRO-DEATH at the same time.
>
>Take a few hypothetical scenarios, for example:
>
>What if someone you know became pregnant as a victim of rape. What would
>you recommend?
>
>A murderer became repentant. Is there room for redemption ?
>
>Are we 100% confident on lab results before sending someone to the chair?
>
>A woman severely injured and comatose in indefinite vegetative state. Pull
>the feeding tube or wait for recovery?
>
>These are very difficult questions that I don't think one party's platform
>beliefs can answer for the rest of us.
>
>Binh
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Victor Thang Do
> To: All at trungduong.org
> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 2:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [trungduong] Go Vote!
>
>
> Binh,
> Thanks for your comment. For capital punishment, some cases like serial
> killers, terrorists, intended murders, etc. deserved to get the penalty.
>The
> fetus/baby is innocent, can not be killed in vain.
>
> Thang
>
> >From: "Binh Truong" <btruong2 at austin.rr.com>
> >Reply-To: Just chat <All at trungduong.org>
> >To: "Just chat" <All at trungduong.org>,
> ><hoanganhl at hotmail.com>,<dunghn at cisco.com>, <TraDuong at aol.com>,
> ><nhaantr at hotmail.com>
> >Subject: Re: [trungduong] Go Vote!
> >Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:43:33 -0500
> >
> >Thang,
> >
> >Being in the medical field, I agree with you to SOME extent on the
>abortion
> >issue. I am curious as to where you stand on the death penalty for
>capital
> >punishment?
> >
> >Binh
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Victor Thang Do
> > To: All at trungduong.org ; hoanganhl at hotmail.com ; dunghn at cisco.com ;
> >TraDuong at aol.com ; nhaantr at hotmail.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 11:49 AM
> > Subject: Re: [trungduong] Go Vote!
> >
> >
> >
> > A war hero doesn't mean a good president/leader. There's a critical
> >point
> > that I don't want to vote for Kerry is that he supports/oks with the
> > abortion. As a parent, you'll see life of a child is not your
>decision
> >and
> > it's so precious and appreciative. There's no "pro-choice" here.
>Either
> > you're a killer or not. It's that simple. No matter what your
>religion
> >is
> > pro-kill a human life is UNACCEPTABLE.
> >
> > >From: Anh Le Arsenault <anhple at earthlink.net>
> > >Reply-To: Just chat <All at trungduong.org>
> > >To: Just chat <All at trungduong.org>, hoanganhl at hotmail.com,
> > >dunghn at cisco.com,TraDuong at aol.com, nhaantr at hotmail.com
> > >Subject: Re: [trungduong] Go Vote!
> > >Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:11:35 -0400
> > >
> > >I agree McCain is a hero, in war and after. Yet he lost Republican
> > >Nomination of Presidential Election 2000 to Bush. Why? Bush played
> >dirty
> > >tricks to smear McCain then, especially he smeared McCain on his
>War
> > >record.
> > >Had McCain won then, should this country have had better 4 years.
> > >Anyway, you guys really got to think. That's good.
> > >
> > >---pa
> > >
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Victor Thang Do" <tddo at hotmail.com>
> > >To: <All at trungduong.org>; <hoanganhl at hotmail.com>;
><dunghn at cisco.com>;
> > ><TraDuong at aol.com>; <nhaantr at hotmail.com>
> > >Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 12:52 PM
> > >Subject: Re: [trungduong] Go Vote!
> > >
> > >
> > > > We just wait and see what's gonna happen.
> > > >
> > > > " You let Bush caught you on this. Sorry."
> > > > - Have you watched 4 debates (3 from Bush-Kerry, 1 from
> >Cheney-Edwards)?
> > >Did
> > > > you hear what Kerry commented about terrorism? Words were out
>from
> >his
> > >mouth
> > > > not from Bush's.
> > > >
> > > > " Only Kerry cannot veto and kill a proposition in Senate"
> > > > - You can research and figure out that.
> > > >
> > > > "Kerry only raises tax for upper class who earn $200K/year or
>more.
> >You
> > > > >belong to upper class ?"
> > > > - Do you believe a flip-flop guy's tongue? I don't think so.
> > > >
> > > > I have some interesting pics about Kerry and Do Muoi in 1993. I
> >think
> > >Sen.
> > > > John McCain never do that instead he's the one to support the
> > >proposition
> > > > and the one of the ones who found the HO program for former
> >Vietnamese
> > > > officers and their families can refuge in the US. He's the real
>hero
> >to
> > >me.
> > > > He sat right in the heart of SaiGon and criticized about the
>human
> > >rights
> > > > for VN not kiss ass. If you watched that show on the day he's
>back
> >to VN
> > >you
> > > > will see it.
> > > >
> > > > Thang
> > > >
> > > >
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