[trungduong] Go Vote!

[Ngo, Vu (NIH/NCI)]

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> From: 	Anh Le Arsenault
> Reply To: 	Just chat
> Sent: 	Monday, November 1, 2004 2:58 PM
> To: 	Just chat
> Subject: 	Re: [trungduong] Go Vote!
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Victor Thang Do" <tddo at hotmail.com>
> To: <All at trungduong.org>
> Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 12:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [trungduong] Go Vote!
> 
> 
> > Hello folks,
> > I'm back. Remember to vote.
> >
> > "They attacked the South in Tet 1968. They also built underground "du
> kick"
> > in the South.
> > Didn't you remember their propaganda? "Khang chien truong ky nhat dinh
> thang
> > loi" "Da danh la danh den cung"
> > _ I think you're underestimated the South Force. The communists in the
> East
> > could not win with the supports of Soviet and China. The South Force was
> cut
> > off from the US that why they lost. The North tried to attack in 68 to
> take
> > over the gov. Result? Thousands of VC died and the plan failed.
> >
> 
> That was to point out that North VN Communist did have the intention of an
> "as long as it takes" struggle. As you just said, China and Soviet
> supported
> the North. How can you be sure that U.S could win over South VN against
> China and Russia?? Or not invoke the Third World War starting from
> SouthEast
> Asia?
> 
> 
Although lost in the Tet Offensive, the North won the political war: Soon
after the event, the American public was shocked under the illusion that
with the help of the American mighty power, the communist force were always
under controlled.  When this turned out not to be true, Congress quickly cut
funding and the consequence were well predicted.


> > "So pick any 2 countries to
> > compare is doing apple&orange comparison. One can only analyze on the
> > common/difference between the countries."
> > _  I never compared country to country. What I want to say is the
> situation
> > and I used "if" as a wish to mine.
> >
> > "Didn't you know about all the war protests in
> > this country and around the world?"
> > _ War protests in this country? Yes, but it's just a tiny amount
> compared
> to
> > the VN war protests. Around the world? Doesn't make any strong
> decisions.
> > Remember, in this States there are still alot of people supporting the
> > Bush's campaign which includes Iraq war.
> 
> That only means there are pro-war people in this country and around the
> world who keep the war going. What's the point?
> 
> 
An interesting point.  See my comment below.

> >
> > >Remember Iraq didn't send terrorists to place bombs in U.S or
> elsewhere.
> > >Bin
> > >Laden followers/sympathizers did. Now that he escaped U.S attack, he
> gained
> > >even higher respect among terrorists. He doesn't even have to
> physically
> > >lead or order the terrorist groups around the world. Those just attack
> on
> > >his behalf.
> > _ Let me ask you a question: the one who pays the hit man to kill the
> person
> > he want is a criminal, isn't he? So direct and indirect crimes are the
> same.
> > Do we have to think and see if Saddam sends any terrorists to the
> country?
> > Or we wait until he helps the terrorists all the techniques how to make
> WMD
> > and provides them all the facilities and materials they need?
> 
> A little confusion on who you referred to as "he".
> For the case of Iraq war, from Bush, Cheney to Rumsfeld, Condi Rice,
> Powell,
> the claims were WMD and links to Al-Queda. With the unfold of 9/11
> Commission Reports and Result from WMP Inspection in Iraq, each of those
> guys admitted that there were no evidences about links to Al-Queda.
> Needless
> to say about all false evidences of WMD. There is some reason why
> "insiders"
> like Richard Clarke came out with his book "Again All Enemies", Paul
> O'Neil
> with "The Price of Loyalty", and even an "outsider" like Bob Woodward with
> "Plan of Attack". 
> 
> 
The British quickly followed and admited that their pre-war intelligence was
a total hoax.  I could not help to compare with the "Tonkin gulf
resolution", passed by Congress for the American to escalate involvement in
VN.  If you are ever curious about the truth about this resolution, it's so
easy to find out.

> The real cause of Iraq war, after ripped off WMD and links
> to Al-Queda, is left with this plain truth: a political gain for George W
> B.
> Remember how quickly he declared "mission accomplished"?
> 
> 
	So a little gain in 4 more year in office is worth the effort for
Bush?  Not that simple, of course.  The plain truth is probably hinted in
your opinion below:

> A billion of Muslim around the world now hate us
> thanks to George W. Bush.  
> 
> 
Their hatred has a history and the question is why the American now is the
target?  I don't think Bush is the blame.

Have fun voting,

vu