[trungduong] Go Vote!

Mon Nov 1 13:58:56 CST 2004

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Victor Thang Do" <tddo at hotmail.com>
To: <All at trungduong.org>
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 12:42 PM
Subject: Re: [trungduong] Go Vote!

> Hello folks,
> I'm back. Remember to vote.
>
> "They attacked the South in Tet 1968. They also built underground "du
kick"
> in the South.
> Didn't you remember their propaganda? "Khang chien truong ky nhat dinh
thang
> loi" "Da danh la danh den cung"
> _ I think you're underestimated the South Force. The communists in the
East
> could not win with the supports of Soviet and China. The South Force was
cut
> off from the US that why they lost. The North tried to attack in 68 to
take
> over the gov. Result? Thousands of VC died and the plan failed.
>

That was to point out that North VN Communist did have the intention of an
"as long as it takes" struggle. As you just said, China and Soviet supported
the North. How can you be sure that U.S could win over South VN against
China and Russia?? Or not invoke the Third World War starting from SouthEast
Asia?

> "So pick any 2 countries to
> compare is doing apple&orange comparison. One can only analyze on the
> common/difference between the countries."
> _  I never compared country to country. What I want to say is the
situation
> and I used "if" as a wish to mine.
>
> "Didn't you know about all the war protests in
> this country and around the world?"
> _ War protests in this country? Yes, but it's just a tiny amount compared
to
> the VN war protests. Around the world? Doesn't make any strong decisions.
> Remember, in this States there are still alot of people supporting the
> Bush's campaign which includes Iraq war.

That only means there are pro-war people in this country and around the
world who keep the war going. What's the point?

>
> >Remember Iraq didn't send terrorists to place bombs in U.S or elsewhere.
> >Bin
> >Laden followers/sympathizers did. Now that he escaped U.S attack, he
gained
> >even higher respect among terrorists. He doesn't even have to physically
> >lead or order the terrorist groups around the world. Those just attack on
> >his behalf.
> _ Let me ask you a question: the one who pays the hit man to kill the
person
> he want is a criminal, isn't he? So direct and indirect crimes are the
same.
> Do we have to think and see if Saddam sends any terrorists to the country?
> Or we wait until he helps the terrorists all the techniques how to make
WMD
> and provides them all the facilities and materials they need?

A little confusion on who you referred to as "he".
For the case of Iraq war, from Bush, Cheney to Rumsfeld, Condi Rice, Powell,
the claims were WMD and links to Al-Queda. With the unfold of 9/11
Commission Reports and Result from WMP Inspection in Iraq, each of those
guys admitted that there were no evidences about links to Al-Queda. Needless
to say about all false evidences of WMD. There is some reason why "insiders"
like Richard Clarke came out with his book "Again All Enemies", Paul O'Neil
with "The Price of Loyalty", and even an "outsider" like Bob Woodward with
"Plan of Attack". The real cause of Iraq war, after ripped off WMD and links
to Al-Queda, is left with this plain truth: a political gain for George W B.
Remember how quickly he declared "mission accomplished"?

Before you go the polls tomorrow, folks, be sure you will NOT regret your
vote, for helping cut back our parents' Medicare/Social Security, for
passing on to our children the burden of war, deficit, and the hatred of the
world toward this country.  A billion of Muslim around the world now hate us
thanks to George W. Bush.  I believe, NO Peace nor Safety can be gained from
creating hatred.

Sincerely,
---pa

> >From: Anh Le Arsenault <anhple at earthlink.net>
> >Reply-To: Just chat <All at trungduong.org>
> >To: Just chat <All at trungduong.org>
> >Subject: Re: [trungduong] Go Vote!
> >Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 10:32:13 -0400
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Victor Thang Do" <tddo at hotmail.com>
> >To: <All at trungduong.org>
> >Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 12:47 PM
> >Subject: Re: [trungduong] Go Vote!
> >
> >
> > >> "Communists in Korea and Germany accepted the division of the
country.
> > >> VN-communists didn't. They vowed they never will."
> > >>
> > >_ How do you know? Or just because of stupid anti-war activists like
> >Kerry,
> > > Fonda (later on sorry for here acts) prevent the freedom of South Viet
> >Nam.
> >
> >Because North VN communists violated Geneva Agreement. They attacked the
> >South in Tet 1968. They also built underground "du kick" in the South.
> >Didn't you remember their propaganda? "Khang chien truong ky nhat dinh
> >thang
> >loi" "Da danh la danh den cung"
> >North Korean  Communists didn't invade the South after the division.
> >Neither
> >did Eastern German.
> >If only the anti-war activists can stop the war, then the Iraq war could
> >have been stopped already. Didn't you know about all the war protests in
> >this country and around the world?
> >
> >
> > >> "If I could make an assumption, we might end up living
> > >> in a place like Palestine/Israel with daily violence. 3 generations
of
> > >> Palestinians have been stuck in Palestine refugee camps since 1948 by
> > >> Israeli. They have been fighting since then and nowhere near the
end."
> >
> > > _ You can't compare orange with apple. Palestine and Israel are
> >different
> > > countries. They fought each other for different purposes. Just compare
> >VN
> > > with Korea, or a little close to East & West Germany.
> >
> >There are NO two countries exactly the same. So pick any 2 countries to
> >compare is doing apple&orange comparison. One can only analyze on the
> >common/difference between the countries. Nobody can guarantee that if one
> >thing happens in country A, it will happen the same way in country B no
> >matters how much in common those countries are. Again, if you disagree
with
> >my assumption so much, what makes your assumption about VN war
convincible
> >?
> >They're all just assumptions after all.
> >
> > > Can you do your bussiness with sometimes we have an explosion
somewhere
> >in
> > > the US caused by terrorists?
> > >
> >
> >Remember Iraq didn't send terrorists to place bombs in U.S or elsewhere.
> >Bin
> >Laden followers/sympathizers did. Now that he escaped U.S attack, he
gained
> >even higher respect among terrorists. He doesn't even have to physically
> >lead or order the terrorist groups around the world. Those just attack on
> >his behalf.
> >
> >---pa
> >
> >
> > > Thang
> >
> >
> >
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